First Presidency Letterpress Copy Books

1887—January

Scott amendment, approval of anti-polygamy constitution in return for statehood.
    January 1, 1887 to John Irvine, Washington, D.C.  

New England papers

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  Your description [letter of December 20] of the interview … with Mr. Charles F. Fowler was very interesting, and we were impressed with the force of his views respecting the publication of articles in our interest in the new England papers, especially to divert the attention of Senator Edmunds by giving him a fire in the rear … We should certainly be in favor of giving the utmost publicity to our side in the way Mr. Fowler suggests, particularly when, as you assure us, it can be inserted at a low price—perhaps only a small advance on the regular advertising rates.  

 

 

 

Not necessary to promote polygamy   It is not necessary that we should advocate polygamy. That is not our business. Plural marriage was never designed for wicked people … There are comparatively few even of the Latter-day Saints who are in a condition to practice this system in the manner God designs, and how much less the people who do not believe the principles of the gospel!    
Marshal Exum on John W. Young's trail   … Deputy marshal Exum left here for Washington some days since, and it is suspected that the object of his visit in part at least, is to embarrass and perhaps arrest Brother John W. Young and yourself, if he can find you. A dispatch was sent to Brother Caine to warn him …    
    John Taylor, George Q. Cannon
First Presidency
   
    January 1, 1887 to Joseph F. Smith    
Cleveland condemns Dalton murder  

[Dalton murder affidavits to be printed in pamphlet form and sent to congressmen, senators.] We understand that President Cleveland condemns it and has expressed pleasure that Marshal Dyer feels as he does concerning it.

 
    John Taylor, George Q. Cannon    
    January 3, 1887 to John Henry Smith    
Form of rebaptism   The only form of baptism of which we know anything, is given by the Lord in the Book of Covenants to his church. That form has never been changed that we know of. It [can] be reasonably supposed, that the Lord in giving it, considered it sufficient. Where people are baptized a second or third time, it is the form that should be used.    
Coalville co-op   [Complaints are made about W. W. Cluff's co-op at Coalville.]    
    John Taylor    
    January 5, 1887 to Bishop Preston    
Milk contract   [Re: Samuel H. B. Smith's complaint on milk business] … what have you to say respecting it, and is he entitled to any compensation for the withdrawing of the contract from him for supplying milk …  
    John Taylor    
    January 8, 1887 to James Jack    
BB&C payments   Yours of 7th asking how you shall apply the 15,000 which has been handed to you by Brother George Reynolds, secretary and treasurer of the Bullion Beck and Champion Mining Co. We think that you had better cancel the following notes: 3 of April 10, 1884 for $200 each; 1 of April 22, 1886 for $500.65; 1 of July 3, 1886 for $6,500; 1 of August 10, 1886 for $3,000; 1 of October 25, 1886 for $885.65 and the recording of mortgage for $10,000. After canceling these with their interest apply the balance on the note for $10,000 given September 22, 1886.

Please inform us after doing this what amount will be still due from the company.
 
    John Taylor    
    January 8, 1887 to Elder Thomas Memmott, Scipio    

Ordination form

 

[Re: Yours of December 23 to Franklin D. Richards about ordaining deacons. Regret the issue has been source of division.] The form which you say was used in ordaining the young deacon the second time, to the effect that "We place our hands upon your head and confer the Aaronic priesthood upon you and ordain you a deacon" is wrong form, and it is improper to use such language, and to bestow the Aaronic Priesthood in this manner in ordaining a deacon.

 
    If you will consult the Book of Mormon, the 3rd chapter of the Book of Moroni found upon p. 609 you will find the manner in which the disciples in ancient days ordained priests and teachers, and you will see how simple that form is; and of course if this form was sufficient to confer the authority of a priest or a teacher upon a man it would be equally sufficient to confer the office of a deacon. You will see also that the teachings there as to the manner in which those officers were ordained agrees with the instructions of the Lord upon this same subject through the Prophet Joseph in Doctrine and Covenants 20:57–60.    
    John Taylor    
   

January 8, 1887 to Elder James H. Martineau, Pima, Arizona

 

Ordination of high priests

  [Re: ordination of high priests. Names to be submitted by stake president and high council] If the First Presidency approve of their ordination, the names should then be submitted to the quarterly conference of the stake, and if voted for by the conference they can then be ordained.    
    John Taylor, George Q. Cannon    

 

 

January 12, 1887 to President Thomas E. Ricks

 

Card, Zundell, and Hendricks son looking for refuge in Mexico and Canada

 

[Re: Yours of 8th alluding to harassmen.] In view of all this, we have endeavored to secure a place of refuge in Mexico; but have been greatly embarrassed there by a variety of circumstances, and the results, until quite lately, were unsatisfactory. We also counseled Brother Card and Brother Zundell and one of the sons of Brother William D. Hendricks to make a trip into British Columbia with a view of searching out a suitable place or places there …

  Charles O. Card biographical sketch
Card to colonize Canada   This last movement for obvious reasons was made very quietly and so as not to attract attention. It is still our wish that it should not be agitated and given to great publicity. We have counseled Brother Card to take the necessary steps to form a colony in that region if a sufficient number of brethren could be found who would like to go there. [Contact him in Mexico] there is room for 100 families …    
    John Taylor, George Q. Cannon    
    January 13, 1887 to Samuel H. B. Smith    
Milk contract   Bishops Preston and Burton say that it never entered into their heads to injure you or anyone else in supplying themselves with the milk needed for public hands. They state there never has been any contract, to their knowledge, giving you the exclusive right to furnish milk to the tithing office. You had the privilege, however, they say, of furnishing milk as it might be needed, at prices agreed upon from time to time … [long letter].  
    January 13, 1887 to Bishop I. E. D. Zundell, Washakie Indian farm    
Washakie Indian farm   [Re: Washakie articles of incorporation.]  
$2,500 for Mexico land  

January 17, 1887 to Erastus Snow, and Moses Thatcher

[Enclosed are five $500 drafts ($2,500) as partial land payment (for land in Mexico).]

 
Milk contract  

January 19, 1887 to Samuel H. B. Smith

As I do not now remember having made any contract with you personally or in connection with the Presiding Bishopric, I would be pleased to have you inform me what that [milk] contract was for which you refer to, and if you have the same please send me a copy of it …

   
    John Taylor    
BB&C payment   January 22, 1887 to James Jack

Brother H[iram]. B. Clawson advises me that the mortgage of John Beck's property must be lifted immediately in order to accomplish that which we have in view in his behalf. [Clawson] has not received any payments on his last sales of ore and is not in funds to pay the mortgage which I understand is about $16,500. Consult with him, and let him have this amount or less as he may need. He has been advised to pay to you as much of this as he possibly can out of the sales of ore, after reserving enough to meet the current expenses of the mine.

John Taylor
   
BB&C payment

$58,635 paid from ZCMI safe
  January 25, 1887 to James Jack

In your report of the amounts taken from ZCMI vault, we find the following entries: August 26 John Beck's note $3,000 (all John Beck notes); September 18 $5,000; October 9 $2,500; November 3 $3,500 and $3,150; January 13 $1,200; January 20$ 2,300 (mortgage) January 22 $16,500 (mortgage). These are the amounts that you report as having paid out of the safe. There may be, moreover, other amounts which you have advanced on his a/c from other funds. We would like [a complete statement].
   
    John Taylor    
Hymn book committee  

January 25, 1887 to George Lambert, Deseret News

[Re: Yours of the 19th about a proposed hymn book] in which you inform me that Brothers Beesley, Daynes and Griggs have been a committee to arrange the tunes for our hymns … This is well as far as it goes; but as Brothers George Careless and Evan Stephens have considerable to do with musical matters and are teachers of singing, we think it would be proper for them also to have some voice in this business …
 
    John Taylor    
    January 27, 1887 to John T. Caine and John W. Young  
Scott amendment

Approve if principle not compromised
  In answer to your dispatch asking about the Scott amendment we sent you the following. "Urge Scott amendment and any other amendment which will defeat object of the enemy." On Monday the 24th inst. another dispatch was sent to the following effect: "We have no change to make in our policy. No surrender of principle. [John] Sharp's former course not approved."  
    In view of the importance of all the questions involved in our policy, it is proper that something definite should be written to you that you may have some idea how far to go without committing yourselves in every direction that cannot be sustained by the people. Conversation with Brother [Charles W.] Nibley has called for a more serious consideration of the terms of the Scott amendment.  
Scott gives relief from Tucker, but …   At the time the reply was sent to you upon that subject, we felt that any amendment that would give us relief from the Tucker bill, might be urged by our friends. Brother Nibley informs us that there is danger if we do not accept the terms of the Scott amendment that we may be suspected of not acting in good faith and that our position may be made worse as a consequence.  
    Brother Penrose had given the Scott amendment some consideration and learning from Brother Nibley something concerning the situation of affairs wrote a full letter to me upon the subject in which he takes the ground that we can accept the Scott amendment without compromising any principle of our religion and still act with good faith to the government. His point is that neither belief in "bigamy" nor "polygamy" but as Brother Nibley is returning to Washington and he heard Brother Penrose's argument and views on this point we were spared the necessity of writing them in detail as he can explain them fully to you.  
Acceptable if imposed by Congress   We cannot frame a constitution ourselves of this character; for it will not do for us, after enduring what we have for the sake of our religion and its principles, to put ourselves in a position where our words and actions may be construed into a surrender of that for which we have ever contended. Better for us to continue to suffer from the attacks of our enemies and their persecution than for us to occupy a position which we cannot honorably, openly and successfully defend against all attacks that may be made upon us. At this day we cannot afford to put ourselves in an equivocal attitude upon this question or in one that might have the appearance of being false.  
Anti-polygamy consitution possible   If Congress should frame a provision to the effect that "bigamy and polygamy shall be forever forbidden," then the proposition might be carefully considered. It would present a very different phase for Congress to make such a provision or condition than it would for us to step forward and propose it.  
Not settled   Whether we could even then accept such a constitution is a grave question—a question, however, which we cannot decide upon when it is presented to us. With love to yourselves and all with you …
 
    John Taylor, George Q. Cannon    
    P.S. This letter appears in two handwritings in order to finish in good time for the mail.    

 

  [n.d.] p. 483 to James Jack  
Telegram: Go slow on Scott amendment   Please send the following telegram in cipher to John W. Young c/o Hon. John T. Caine: "Go slow on Scott amendment, have written you today. James Jack"

Your brother,
 
    John Taylor    

 

 

January 27, 1887 to William Budge

 
Lobby funding

$1,500 for Idaho
 

[Re: Yours of the 20th to C. Williams about Boise] You say "If we could only get the help we talked of, I believe the conditions are now more favorable than they would have been earlier." &c. If the amount we sent you yesterday could be used in that direction, and $1,500 more would gain the point, it would be much cheaper in the end, than resorting to litigation, for it would save the necessity of it. If you have any hope in the plan that was talked over by you while in the city, it might be well to use the $500 as a part of "the help" you speak of instead of using it as a retainer.

  C. Williams: Charles Penrose
    John Taylor    
       

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