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October 1887

Brigham Young specified wooden towers for Salt Lake Temple; former Democratic Senator Alexander McDonald's lobbying fee; lawyers, not the Twelve, to determine tactics; non-Mormons agree to no raids during Conference; John Caine to deliver anti-polygamy constitution to the president; support for Jacob Hamblin families; LeGrand Young to see Jay Gould; Mormons called as jurors a conspiracy; anti-polygamy constitution hedge.


  October 4, 1887 to Elder T. O. Angell, Sr., Church architect  
President Taylor wanted temple towers of wood (original design)   A letter from your son T. O. Angell informs us that he suggested some time ago to President John Taylor the propriety of building the temple towers of stone instead of finishing them of wood, and that President Taylor's concluded that they had better be finished according to the original design in wood.
 
Twelve considering issue   This question was brought before the Council of the Apostles, and before deciding upon anything in regard to it they were desirous to know more about it than they now understand. It seems, from your son's letter, that the original design was for them to be completed in wood. We suppose this to have been President Young's intention, according to this letter.  
Why did Brigham want wood?

How much more time for stone?
  Why did he prefer wood to stone? And why should they not be finished in stone in preference to wood, as it would appear more in harmony with the rest of the building? A building of such magnitude and so costly in its character, it would seem, ought to have its towers finished in stone. If stone were adopted, how much longer would it require to finish these towers than if they were completed in wood?  
    Wilford Woodruff

 
  October 4, 1887 to Elder Charles W. Penrose  
Received letters re: McDonald, Butler, Ray   Your letter of the 14th September addressed to us, giving us a report of your and Brother Franklin S. Richards interviews with MacDonald, Butter and [Ray?] attorneys at Indianapolis, reached us in due course.   MacDonald: former Democratic Senator < Alexander McDonald.
Surprised by McDonald's low fee   We were very much surprised at the intelligence brought to us by Brother Richards concerning their employment and the terms that they proposed which your letter also confirmed. He thought a fee of $1,000 a very small one and wondered how a man of ex-Senator MacDonald's reputation could afford to take hold of such an important case for such an amount, but as the [writ?] of prohibition was mentioned, we concluded that he was certain that the business could be done by that means, so that it would not be a lengthy suit and expensive.
 
Attorneys should decide tactics, not Twelve   We were disposed, after some discussion of the matter with the Quorum of the Twelve to accede to the terms, because we saw no other way of doing it, the time being so short. But after we had decided in this way we find from our own attorneys that they were not disposed to taking responsibility as to the line of defense which had been proposed. We felt that this placed the Quorum of Apostles in a position which they should not occupy. We think that our attorneys should decide which is the best line of defense and be responsible for it, and not leave with us the responsibility of deciding the line of defense.
 
Corporate strategy weak   Brother LeGrand Young was very positive that to admit that this was a corporation and assume that as our line of argument, was not so likely to result as well as the other way.
 

Sent Franklin S. to get opinions of Woolworth and Broadhead

Broadhead agrees Church is corporation.

  Finally it was decided for Brother Franklin S. Richards to go to Omaha and St. Louis and get the opinions of two prominent lawyers on this question; for we felt that in a matter of such grave importance we should start right. We desired him to see Mr. Woolworth, of Omaha, who is very eminent in profession and Mr. Broadhead, and he left immediately on that mission. Dispatches just received inform us that Mr. Broadhead, takes the same view that the Indianapolis attorneys did. That our church is a corporation.
  Broadhead: former Representative and Senator from Missouri, < James O. Broadhead.
Franklin S. favors Broadhead   As to what will be done we cannot at present speak, because Brother Richards telegraphs us not to decide until he returns. He appears very favorably impressed with Mr. Broadhead, whose fee he says is very moderate.

 
  [unsigned]  
  October 13, 1887 to President William Paxman, New Zealand  
Conference well attended

Non-Mormons agreed to no raids
  Our conference has just terminated, being the first that has been held in Salt Lake City for three years. The attendance has been probably larger than any other previous conference. The people have felt great interest in coming here, and as a consequence of it being held in this city, a disposition has been manifested by leading non-Mormons to not interfere with those who attended conference unless they were under indictment, and not to make any raids during the time.  
Assured safe to attend   In fact, there have been no arrests made. Myself, Brothers Erastus Snow and John Henry Smith, who have been underground for some time, received such assurances that we thought it safe to attend the meetings.  
Typhoid, mountain fever, diptheria   There has been considerable sickness of late, a good many cases of typhoid and mountain fever, and also diphtheria.  
  Wilford Woodruff

 
  October 18, 1887 to John Irvine  
Verbatim court report   It is import, we think, that there should be a verbatim report secured for our benefit of the proceedings in the Supreme Court of Utah in the confiscation suit against the Church. We should be pleased to have you attend all the sessions of court when this suit is tried and secure for us a full report of the proceedings.  
  Wilford Woodruff

 
  October 19, 1887 to John Caine  
John Caine to deliver constitution to president   We have decided that it would be eminently proper for you, as our delegate to Congress and the president of the convention, to be the bearer of a handsomely engrossed copy of the constitution and the memorial to Grover Cleveland, president of the United States. We also feel that you should start as soon as you conveniently can, so as to meet him after his return from his tour, so that when he commences the preparation of his annual message, he will have the constitution before him, with ample time to examine and bestow thought upon it.    
  Wilford Woodruff    
  October 18, 1887 to Bishop Edward A. Noble, Alpine, Apache county, Arizona    
$400 for Jacob Hamblin family   Your letter addressed to President D. K. Udall describing the condition of Brother Jacob Hamblin's family that reside in your place, was read and considered by the Council of the Apostles, and an appropriation of $400.00 was made in their behalf.    
$400 for second family

Move body
  Another letter from Bishop Benjamin Brown was read, also describing the destitute condition of another portion of his family, and a like amount was appropriated in their behalf. We feel that his body should be removed from where it was buried by strangers to such place as he expressed a desire to have it buried. Probably his sons can do this.

   
  Wilford Woodruff    
  October 21, 1887 Jay Gould, esq., New York    
  Dear sir:    
LeGrand visits Jay Gould   LeGrand Young, esq., who, we believe, well known to you, and who is a gentleman of honor and excellent standing among us, visits your city at our instance for the purpose of laying some business before you with which we have entrusted him. We have selected him for this purpose because of his prudence and reliability in business of this character and because we feel assured that you can safely speak to him with the greatest freedom and confidence. If you can do anything for the people of Utah in the direction he will indicate, it will be highly appreciated and remembered by them, and also be esteemed …

   
  October 28, 1887 to President George Teasdale, Liverpool, England    
Conspiracy to obstruct statehood   The plotters against our liberties have this week developed a new conspiracy. Its intent is to hedge up our way to statehood. All the criminal cases having been got through with for the term in the U.S. court sitting in this city, and no gentiles caring to sit on civil cases, where the pay is small and the chance of collecting it meager, open venires have been issued, with the understanding that Mormons only should be summoned.    
Call Mormons as jurors, subject to oath   When the gentlemen thus summoned for jurors appear in court to assume their duties, the odious, unconstitutional oath known as the politic authorities oath is presented to them for their acceptance. Bad as the original oath under the law was, this is so much the more distasteful, as it contains a covert attack at their religion.    
Refuse to take oath, accused of insincerity   Of course, many of the brethren refused to take this oath, and the schemer who laid the trap now exultingly charge our people with insincerity for taking the one oath and refusing the other, and they will make the most of the matter to prejudice the country against our admission into the union. …    
Promise to punish polygamists hedged   It is not improbable, after we have concluded in a political sense all we have, that they will reject our appeal, but if they do so, it will only condemn them in the eyes of heaven all the more surely. We have promised to do what no other people would—to punish those who perform what we deem a meritorious action. We have hedged this promise with unusual safeguards, that we could not get away from it. We have proclaimed that in this promise we were sincere. Now we must await the results. We have not brought the question of faith or conscience into the proceedings. We hope to stand by the principles of our religion, undiminished and uncurtailed, forever. The United States, as a nation, could not under its constitution, make compacts with a church, as some foolishly and erroneously fancy has been done.
   
Joseph F. Smith injured, thrown from buggy   Brother Joseph F. Smith is suffering from a severe sprain in his left ankle arising from being thrown out of a buggy which overturned while crossing the street car track.

   
  Wilford Woodruff    
  October 29, 1887 to Elder Charles W. Penrose, New York    
George Ticknor Curtis: distribute constitution to Congress   The opinion of Mr. George Ticknor Curtis, which has been asked for, should be printed in sufficient quantity to furnish members of Congress with a copy each, also the principal newspaper editors and men of note throughout the republic accompanying it marked copies of the constitution and memorial should also be sent—marked in such a way that it will not take time to find the points of interest. We have ordered a sufficient number to be sent you for this purpose and hope you will find it convenient to get them off as quickly as possible. It is important that members should have them before they become engrossed with the labors of Congress, as they would have time then to read and bestow some thought upon the subject.
  Curtis was a Church lobbyist in Washington.
Deseret News printing minority report of the Commission, distribute it as well   The Deseret News is also printing the minority report of the Utah Commission, which will also be sent to you to distribute with the other matter. You have access to documents that will furnish you the names of the proper persons to receive these documents.   Minority report was produced by McClernand and Carlton, influenced, perhaps, by John W. Young's visit urged by the First Presidency in their letter of < September 17.
    Wilford Woodruff, George Q. Cannon, Joseph F. Smith

   
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